I wrote this:
as it happens, i don’t support a withdrawal from the West Bank because I think it will “bring peace”. I am almost certain it won’t and may well make the lives of ordinary Palestinians worse, if the record of Palestinian self government in Gaza is anything to go by. The Palestinians however, must have a state whether it brings peace or not, because they want it, deem themselves to be a people and have fought for it. The exact same went for the Jews and goes for them still. With regard to the western activists and their fellow travellers, even if I-P peace comes it won’t be enough for them. Jewish self determination is what bugs them. They won’t be happy while it still exists. Also, by refusing to look at the level of violence in the conflict within a comparitive framework you yourself hypostatize “the brutal Zionist occupation regime” and, nolens volens, hypocritically demonize Israel as a uniquely evil state. A final point, when I argue about politics and my interlocutor and I discover that we agree on the basic measures that need to be taken then we usually set aside relatively minor differences and effectively become allies. I notice that, in spite of the stuff about being glad about me in favor of a peaceful solution, you are still, it seems, not at all happy about my position. You’ll have a long wait to hear the kind of language you are itching to hear from me. Oh and wrt to CiF, they can be a bit (ok, very) dogmatic and I’ve had more than one run in with them myself (though we are now friends again), however, they are excellent at doing what they set out to do, exposing the sewer of Jew hatred that a once great newspaper has become and vindicating the right of Jews to self-determination. As Terry G. himself might say, unconditional support for democracy and self-determination for the Is and Ps. and a knee in the groin to the BDSers, flotillistas, whack job WB rabbis, azzaJews, +972 imbecile hipsters, Hamas (the sooner its brought down the bettter and no it was’t elected to rule gaza by the Pal people) the religious Jews eating away at the rights of the secular in Israel, Israeli Arabs like Hanin Zuabi who are pleased to use Israeli democracy to attempt to destroy democracy etc etc etc sorry bout the long unbroken para. blame FB. Oh and long live the Druze !
Cool! I want the link!
Fabi, the discussion is on Terry Glavin’s wall, If he’s not already a friend then friend him